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Bullying in FISD - The Problem
« on: September 22, 2008, 06:08:01 PM »

“The worst sin toward our fellow creatures
is not to hate them,
but to be indifferent to them:
that's the essence of inhumanity.”


-George Bernard Shaw




The Center for Disease Control reports that over 5.7 million teens in the United States, or more than 30% are estimated to be involved in bullying as bully, victim, or both. Even the CDC admits that accurate data is limited - making it more likely that these numbers are low estimates.  The Center for Disease Control also reports a 76% increase in the number of suicides among children aged 10-14.  It is common knowledge among mental health specialists and those knowledgeable on the subject of depression that more than 90 percent of people who die by suicide have depression or another diagnosable mental disorder.  With such an alarming increase in pre-teen and teen suicide, along with much more publicized incidents of school violence, one cannot help but ask what is causing such depression and despair in this young group of people.  A person just doesn't wake up one morning with depression. Psychologists believe that some people have a genetic tendency towards depression, some people develop depression because of environmental triggers, and some people can have both genetic and environmental triggers. Perhaps these children were more sensitive than most. And therefore, were more susceptible to the effects of the torment they endured.


In the adult world, we have laws against "Bullying" crimes. We do not tolerate these crimes in "our" workplace. Yet, our children are told they must tolerate this in "their" workplace-- our public schools.  Society, in general, has the mindset that it is "all right" or "a rite of passage" for "Bullies" to deliberately and systematically destroy their victims-- our children. Why, but why, would anyone ask our children to endure more than we as adults could? How could anyone expect our children to make it through humiliation, torment, isolation, assaults or a brutal beating unscathed?  We shouldn't.  And they don't. As long as this mindset prevails, our most vulnerable will continue to be our least protected.  Oh, some kids will survive the "Bullies" just like some adults survive being victimized.  However, in both instances, the injuries and the recovery depends largely on the number, frequency, severity and duration of the crime or crimes.


Some children will leave school to escape the victimization. They might only be deprived of their education-- a small price to pay to escape the torment and humiliation.  Some children will leave their hometowns to get away from the harassment and torture.  Some children will turn to substance abuse and self-medicate in an attempt to escape their pain and suffering.  Some will lose all self-confidence and always believe that there must be something wrong with them-- that they did deserve it like everyone said.  (If not, why would those in a position to help-- to save them from a living hell-- have condoned these crimes against them?)  Some children will leave this world to escape their living hell on this earth-- as their pain is with them wherever they go. This result is becoming so much more common that it even has it's own name - bullycide.



Other children will learn to accept the physical and/or psychological injuries inflicted upon them-- "just for fun." They will go to the doctors and take their medications and accept the fact that life isn't fair. They won't question "the system" or why they were not allowed to get a public education "just because" someone didn't like the way they dressed, or perhaps the way they looked. Or maybe it was the music they listened to, or the vehicle they drove. Could have been that they were really intelligent or perhaps that they really struggled to learn. Or maybe the "Bullies" used even better excuses like they thought they were a Christian or they thought they were a Satanist, they thought they were gay or they thought they were straight, they thought they were rich or they thought they were poor, etc., etc., etc.

At any rate, surely, we shouldn't think that these victims would have a problem with some "Bullies" setting themselves up as judge, jury and executioner-- thus depriving their victims of their education, their health and their happiness.  Surely, we should expect the victims to be okay-- to come through this uninjured and unscathed?

When we don't acknowledge "Bullying" as a "real" crime, we dismiss the very real injuries that are inflicted upon it's victims. Although the the psychological injuries and the extent can be varied, they are real injuries. Sometimes, the symptoms are internalized and sometimes they are externalized-- sometimes both.  In either case "Bullying" kills.  In both cases children die.

You may be reading this and thinking that this is not an issue for your child or your family.  I would say to you that that is impossible.  Every child fits into one of three groups, bullies, victims or bystanders.  Every child has either a role in the problem, or the power to play a part in the solution.  I will be breaking these groups down for you over the next several days. I will also be outlining the different types of bullying, some of which may surprise you.  I will also be sharing heart breaking personal stories from victims of bullies and parents who have lost their children as a result of it.  My hope is to make parents aware of the problem and to create an atmosphere in which the masses ask our school district what they are doing to make our childrens' schools a place they feel safe.  There are numerous resources available to school districts to deal with these issues in ways that are far less superficial than their current approach and it is time they deemed this problem as more than a "right of passage."  For some it is too late, for some it will be in the nick of time, and others may have the fortune of being spared victimization in the future.

Editor's Note: What's your opinion on bullying in our schools? As Diana's series continues over the next few days, I welcome and encourage you to share your thoughts, comments and experiences with bullying here on the  blog or in the discussion forums (see link below). Thanks! -Josh


Author: Diana Patton
Originally Posted to the Blog At: 2008-09-22 19:00:10
View This Story on the Blog: http://www.twentypeacefulminutes.com/blog/?p=387
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Re: Bullying in FISD - The Problem
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2008, 07:22:16 PM »
My opinion -- as an adult, as a mom, and as a former target for bullies?  This article is great, but it's only the tip of the iceberg (following the same metaphor, almost 90% of an iceberg is below the waterline, where you can't see it).
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Re: Bullying in FISD - The Problem
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2008, 07:44:43 PM »
I agree 100% which is why this is the first in a series.  I know the problem is bigger than what I could put into one post.
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Re: Bullying in FISD - The Problem
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2008, 07:47:56 PM »
You're totally right.  And I applaud your effort to get discussion going!   ^thumbs
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Re: Bullying in FISD - The Problem
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2008, 08:22:56 PM »
This is a huge problem in FISD.  Administration has long held it has a minor issue or child's play.  They turn their heads or give lip service when attention is drawn to the issue.  The focus is so much on TAKS in this district, and the low performing kids, "little things" have gotten lost in the cracks.  Had a teacher actually say one time that she "did not have time" for my child because she "had to deal with the lower 25% of class."  As a result, there was a lot of bullying going on in that room while "she did not have the time."  That is one incident out of many.
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« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2008, 08:33:09 PM »
I completely see where you are coming from RabFan.  One of the things I would like to learn more about is the effect bullying might have on some of these students' test scores.  Maybe that would encourage more interest by the district?  Regardless, I am determined to get their attention.  But I am going to need some help.  I am still looking for current students, former students and parents with stories to share.
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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2008, 08:13:12 AM »
I guarantee you that it has enormous impact on a student's learning and their performance on tests and in class.  Imagine what it's like -- you survive the trek from one classroom to another through the halls, often with a bully hot on your tail or hanging out at your locket, knowing you've got to get books for the next class.  You manage to arrive in the relative safety of the classroom and spend that class terrified of having to make the trek through the halls again or worrying about recess or fretting about lunch (both recess and lunch give bullies often unlimited access to their victims).  Sometimes, the bully is in the classroom with the victim and they spend the entire time throwing spitballs or eyeballing him/her or whispering to their cohorts so the victim hears them and knows that they're planning some special form of torment.

On the rare occasion that a victim stands up to the bully, they find themselves facing more than one kid, since bullies like to lead packs of rabid kids.  Try to fight the bully and the victim gets his/her butt kicked by a pack of kids.

It's a really sh*tty situation.
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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2008, 08:16:43 AM »
The more kids that stand up to the bullies the better.  There is always strenght in numbers.  Just as the bullies find strength in their group....the victims can find strength as well.  They can all band together.
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Re: Bullying in FISD - The Problem
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2008, 08:27:45 AM »
The more kids that stand up to the bullies the better.  There is always strenght in numbers.  Just as the bullies find strength in their group....the victims can find strength as well.  They can all band together.

Most bullies IME arent bulling a bunch of kids.  They usually find a loner or two and focus on them and get OTHER kids to focus on those kids.  I have never seen bullies like they show on TV where they bully *everyone*.
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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2008, 08:31:07 AM »
You're right, Heather.  And often the other kids the bullies get to join in the bullying are relieved that they're not, themselves, the bully's target.
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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2008, 08:41:35 AM »
The more kids that stand up to the bullies the better.  There is always strenght in numbers.  Just as the bullies find strength in their group....the victims can find strength as well.  They can all band together.

Most bullies IME arent bulling a bunch of kids.  They usually find a loner or two and focus on them and get OTHER kids to focus on those kids.  I have never seen bullies like they show on TV where they bully *everyone*.

I am fully aware that bullies pick on the weak and the kids that are loners.  My point is...if one kid is aware that another came forward and took a stance it might encourage them to come forward as well.  Especially, like somone else posted about forming a group of these kids that feel isolated...they are in a sense forming a support group.

My point is....once one comes forward....another may follow....and then another.

Please trust that I am fully aware of the tactics of bullies and what it does to the victims.  I am by no means an "accredited" expert...but I am strongly familiar with the subject. 

I don't expect the victims to all come forward at the same time in one big pack....I'm just suggesting that maybe...once a few take a stance...that others will follow.   ;)
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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2008, 08:57:30 AM »
Nah they see how quickly the "talker" gets slammed.  Most of the kids... arent being bulled.  Its 1 or 2 out of a class of 20-30.  And its usually more then 1 bully.  So what is a school going to do... take the needs of 1 to 2 kids or the 4-6 lil followers?  It only takes 1 to start something but many more fall in line easily to go along with the bullying.  Look at how mob mentality works.  Separate none of the people would have committed the crime... but together... they are unstopable.
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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2008, 09:12:51 AM »
I am fully aware that bullies pick on the weak and the kids that are loners.  My point is...if one kid is aware that another came forward and took a stance it might encourage them to come forward as well.  Especially, like somone else posted about forming a group of these kids that feel isolated...they are in a sense forming a support group.

My point is....once one comes forward....another may follow....and then another.

Please trust that I am fully aware of the tactics of bullies and what it does to the victims.  I am by no means an "accredited" expert...but I am strongly familiar with the subject. 

I don't expect the victims to all come forward at the same time in one big pack....I'm just suggesting that maybe...once a few take a stance...that others will follow.   ;)

As a person who was bullied all throughout his elementary and middle school years, I respectfully disagree.  I didn't want a support group, and I sure didn't draw strength and inspiration from other victims standing up.  I just wanted to be left alone.

As an aside and callback to the earlier discussion, the bullying did not impact my education at all.  In fact, the reason I was constantly bullied was because I was the top performer in my class and was always held up as an example by the teachers as the best on standardized tests.  So in my case the good performance actually caused the bullying, rather than bullying causing poor performance.  Obviously my sample size of one can't be applied to a larger population, though.
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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2008, 09:18:29 AM »
I am fully aware that bullies pick on the weak and the kids that are loners.  My point is...if one kid is aware that another came forward and took a stance it might encourage them to come forward as well.  Especially, like somone else posted about forming a group of these kids that feel isolated...they are in a sense forming a support group.

My point is....once one comes forward....another may follow....and then another.

Please trust that I am fully aware of the tactics of bullies and what it does to the victims.  I am by no means an "accredited" expert...but I am strongly familiar with the subject. 

I don't expect the victims to all come forward at the same time in one big pack....I'm just suggesting that maybe...once a few take a stance...that others will follow.   ;)

As a person who was bullied all throughout his elementary and middle school years, I respectfully disagree.  I didn't want a support group, and I sure didn't draw strength and inspiration from other victims standing up.  I just wanted to be left alone.

As an aside and callback to the earlier discussion, the bullying did not impact my education at all.  In fact, the reason I was constantly bullied was because I was the top performer in my class and was always held up as an example by the teachers as the best on standardized tests.  So in my case the good performance actually caused the bullying, rather than bullying causing poor performance.  Obviously my sample size of one can't be applied to a larger population, though.

I made reference to the support group b/c someone else spoke of one with a few girls to boost the self esteem.  I think one of the elementry schools were forming one as well to prepare them for middle school (which is the worst time).  Additionally, girls tend to be the meanest.

I too was bullied b/c I was painfully shy...and I didn't have the "money" the others did.
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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2008, 09:32:08 AM »

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As a person who was bullied all throughout his elementary and middle school years, I respectfully disagree.  I didn't want a support group, and I sure didn't draw strength and inspiration from other victims standing up.  I just wanted to be left alone.

As an aside and callback to the earlier discussion, the bullying did not impact my education at all.  In fact, the reason I was constantly bullied was because I was the top performer in my class and was always held up as an example by the teachers as the best on standardized tests.  So in my case the good performance actually caused the bullying, rather than bullying causing poor performance.  Obviously my sample size of one can't be applied to a larger population, though.
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That is great that it worked that way for you.  I am finding in my research that girls tend to react differently and "dumb themselves down" to avoid being victimized.  I am not saying it's right, just saying they tend to do that.
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