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   August 21, 2014, 01:04:56 AM  guest-6eff: @arejayavery saw this on forneypost fb page after a discussion between you and denise... and denise liked this!!

   August 21, 2014, 01:05:14 AM  guest-6eff: Paul Ash RJ Avery I am shocked, just shocked, at your allegations toward Denise. She has a long history of keeping her 

   August 21, 2014, 01:05:37 AM  guest-6eff: personal feelings and views out of her articles and being a truly objective journalist. (LOL!)

   August 23, 2014, 08:32:42 AM  arejayavery: well... sad thing is she is not the only one down there who doesnt let her personal feelings or agendas get in the way

   August 23, 2014, 08:32:51 AM  arejayavery: that is a huge problem all the way across the board..

   August 23, 2014, 08:33:06 AM  arejayavery: and part of the reason imo downtown is built to spill in the long run.. 

   August 23, 2014, 08:33:21 AM  arejayavery: when you are only willing to work with certain land owners and not willing to figure out a way to appease all

   August 23, 2014, 08:33:38 AM  arejayavery: a piece mill situation will occur that will continue to be a mess.

   August 23, 2014, 09:38:16 AM  guest-32df: piecemeal

   August 23, 2014, 09:38:54 AM  guest-32df: ... and that was sarcasm arejay

   August 23, 2014, 09:40:26 AM  guest-32df: Neither you, or the subject, got that. unhhhhh

   August 23, 2014, 09:41:45 AM  guest-32df: @Paul Ash; that sort of thing is wasted on some people

   August 23, 2014, 09:41:53 AM  guest-32df: ... don't bother

   August 23, 2014, 12:33:44 PM  guest-a9fd: They don't have the money to appease all.  Plus, some ideas brought to them aren't necessarily good ones.   

   August 23, 2014, 12:33:51 PM  guest-a9fd: Those ppl do get paid to make those decisions.

   August 25, 2014, 09:16:41 AM  guest-0bec: or elected

   August 25, 2014, 04:54:02 PM  guest-380b: well the fact that they are saying lower taxes but dont have enough money for what we need mainly a fire station... its odd..

   August 25, 2014, 04:54:31 PM  guest-380b: and it does seem our city spends a large amount of money of legal counsel.. if these people were trained to do their jobs

   August 25, 2014, 04:54:39 PM  guest-380b: would that much legal counsel be necessary?

   August 25, 2014, 07:50:52 PM  guest-567e: you need to educate yourself about the fire station.  It has been discussed plenty at Council meetings.

   August 26, 2014, 08:22:48 AM  guest-9c51: have you ever wondered what denise bell costs the city in legal bills? i heard its a lot

   August 26, 2014, 09:47:10 AM  guest-1eb4: The fire station, animal control facility and BTW facility are proposed as part of CO bonds, NOT a bond via tax increase

   August 26, 2014, 01:49:20 PM  guest-0bec: add staff time on top of the legal bills and you quickly see she is a huge drain

   August 27, 2014, 10:38:14 AM  guest-380b: im confused on how a citizen asking questions could cost the city legal fees.. shouldnt the leaders be educated enough to 

   August 27, 2014, 10:38:23 AM  guest-380b: answer questiosn without the need of legal advice on everything?

   August 27, 2014, 10:51:28 AM  guest-380b: my understanding is their legal fees may be so high because they contract out so much of the cities needs.

   August 27, 2014, 10:51:51 AM  guest-380b: and contracts are always a great way for city employees and politicians to recieve favors in return... who knows if it happen

   August 27, 2014, 10:52:17 AM  guest-380b: but it wouldnt be too shocking to find out that CWD paid for some vacations or any number of the other city contractors.

   August 27, 2014, 01:28:41 PM  guest-3c6b: i believe i heard that all of her open records requests go through an attorney.  i could be wrong.

   August 27, 2014, 02:58:28 PM  guest-380b: thats just waste on the cities behalf.... if you are running above board you should not have to have an attorney review 

   August 27, 2014, 02:58:30 PM  guest-380b: what you release

   August 27, 2014, 04:41:59 PM  guest-0bec: That is a very simple way of looking at it

   August 27, 2014, 04:42:32 PM  guest-0bec: There are sensitive documents that if released, could harm individuals, financial deals the city is working on, etc

   August 27, 2014, 04:42:52 PM  guest-0bec: For instance, Denise has requested all kind of applications and sensitive personnel documents

   August 27, 2014, 04:43:12 PM  guest-0bec: City did the right thing in trying to make sure they only realeased what they had to, less they release something and then

   August 27, 2014, 04:43:15 PM  guest-0bec: get sued for it

   August 27, 2014, 04:43:22 PM  guest-0bec: It isn't about being above board.

   August 27, 2014, 04:43:37 PM  guest-0bec: It's about the breadth and complexity of some of the requests she makes

   August 27, 2014, 04:44:18 PM  guest-0bec: I do, in general, agree that the city is probably big enough to hire their own city attorney

   August 27, 2014, 04:44:48 PM  guest-0bec: Although, experienced city attorneys are not cheap, it is likely still less than they are paying now

   August 27, 2014, 04:45:03 PM  guest-0bec: It's like getting that City Engineer.  Tough to know exactly when the right time is.

   August 27, 2014, 04:45:51 PM  guest-0bec: Getting back to the open records requests - Unless you saw the actual form she submits

   August 27, 2014, 04:46:25 PM  guest-0bec: and realize how broad some of her requests are, then it would be easy to see why a legal opinion would be sought

   August 27, 2014, 04:46:43 PM  guest-0bec: She many times isn't simply asking a question.  That's now what an open records request is about.

   August 27, 2014, 04:47:12 PM  guest-0bec: It's about getting hold of all kinds of documentation, including applications, personnel records, emails (lots and lots), etc

   August 28, 2014, 10:05:42 AM  guest-32df: and so it circles back to her requests being a huge drain - and has been for some time now...

   August 28, 2014, 10:06:05 AM  guest-32df: and there's nothing to do about it. Backlash maybe.

   August 28, 2014, 10:07:07 AM  guest-32df: But no, that wouldn't work either. The Feedom of Information act.

   August 28, 2014, 10:08:04 AM  guest-32df: But this is like abuse of that right. Maybe somewhere in the fine print there is a LIMIT to the requests?

   August 28, 2014, 10:08:30 AM  guest-32df: There must be.

   August 28, 2014, 10:09:23 AM  guest-32df: ... or moves should be made to establish one somehow.

   August 28, 2014, 11:20:47 AM  guest-0bec: A town near Austin won a lawsuit effectively banning a couple from making any more FIA requests

   August 28, 2014, 11:21:06 AM  guest-0bec: They were doing so many and it was costing so much time and preventing the city from effectively doing their job

   August 28, 2014, 11:21:15 AM  guest-0bec: I wish they would look at that here with her

   August 28, 2014, 02:37:08 PM  guest-3c6b: while the info should be available, there should be an administrative fee for it

   August 28, 2014, 04:40:55 PM  guest-380b: when i filed a foia there was a fee for it.... and i think the point she is hitting at is that they are the city.. ie the

   August 28, 2014, 04:41:14 PM  guest-380b: public... no business deals etc should be so sensitive that the people who pay the taxees shouldnt be privy to

   August 28, 2014, 04:41:32 PM  guest-380b: if they want to be...

   August 28, 2014, 04:42:02 PM  guest-380b: then again i guess at the federal level people have already accepted handing over their rights to the "professionals" 

   August 28, 2014, 04:42:13 PM  guest-380b: why would anyone expect it obe different on the lower levvel... 

   August 29, 2014, 10:54:21 AM  guest-0bec: There are fees for a FOIA request. 

   August 29, 2014, 10:54:30 AM  guest-0bec: But the fees don't really cover all the cost or the lost productivity.

   August 29, 2014, 11:31:03 AM  guest-3c6b: why are the chazzrabbits playing a 4A school tonight?

   August 29, 2014, 02:07:51 PM  guest-0bec: When you quit insulting the rest of the team, maybe someone will answer you

   August 29, 2014, 02:53:17 PM  guest-3c6b: from reading the inforney article, I thought he was the whole team

   August 29, 2014, 03:01:45 PM  guest-3c6b: never even metions the qb

   August 29, 2014, 04:16:30 PM  guest-0bec: Remember that article was written by a high school intern.  He will learn.   

   August 29, 2014, 04:16:50 PM  guest-0bec: and it was essentially a "profile" piece on Chazz.  Happens all the time.   

   August 29, 2014, 04:17:00 PM  guest-0bec: The QB will get plenty of mention this year

   August 29, 2014, 04:18:06 PM  guest-0bec: But since you did ask, they are playing Wills Point because the previsouly scheduled week 1 opponent backed out

   August 29, 2014, 04:18:28 PM  guest-0bec: Not alot of options.  May coaches have 2 and 3 years booked ahead of time

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